A few remarks about DK and its patchs...

[Benjamin]

Hi, we are a few more frenchs to LOOOOVE DK and have finished multiple times... despite its numerous bugs fortunetly less numerous with the 1.2 patch. Still, am I dreaming or are they some new bugs which then appears ?
-The 2 psyclaws at the end of episode1 now never jump off the plateform they appear on to run after you... making them VERY easy "ball-trap" targets !!!.
-The images of levels don't appear anymore during loading.
-The funny "leaving DK" message doesn't change anymore each time you see it as it used to.
-...... There are a few other ones I just can't recall for now.
Can any DK veterant give an explanation ?

[[S.F.C]Sarge]

quote:Originally posted by Ben:
Hi, we are a few more frenchs to LOOOOVE DK and have finished multiple times... despite its numerous bugs fortunetly less numerous with the 1.2 patch. Still, am I dreaming or are they some new bugs which then appears ?
-The 2 psyclaws at the end of episode1 now never jump off the plateform they appear on to run after you... making them VERY easy "ball-trap" targets !!!.
-The images of levels don't appear anymore during loading.
-The funny "leaving DK" message doesn't change anymore each time you see it as it used to.
-...... There are a few other ones I just can't recall for now.
Can any DK veterant give an explanation ?

Hi there:) I think if you don't have the "images of level" while loading it could because you have set console 1, or you know I think they don't all have a picture as the level is cut in several part (EX: e1m1a, e1m1b, e1m1c, that would be for episode 1 mission 1 part a-b-c). If you run a French DK version, may be that the random message are not available in the french version. In my US version it works, I never tried a french version (mais je suis francais       ). Happy to see you    
 
 [ April 04, 2003, 06:55 AM: Message edited by: [S.F.C]Sarge/CrAzYCoW ]

[Benjamin]

Thanks for the quick answer [S.F.C]Sarge/CrAzYCoW -Ca c'est un pseudo camarade !  J'utilise quand même l'anglais pour que d'autres puissent comprendre-...
-No the image problem happens even with "console" set to "0" and concerning the files themselves, they ARE there in the *.pak files ( I've studied a bit their structure) but only -and its normal- for the first part ( "a") of a map; next parts always loaded, with or without patch, in a black screen with the DK logo.
-Concerning the "exit remarks", they ARE present in the french version without the patch... so I don't understand !
I've tryed malipulating the *.cfg files but haven't succeeded doing anything interesting yet.
Ah, other bugs:
In cooperative multiplayer, we've experimented several BIG problems like:
-Large parts of texture being BADLY corrupted ( Going white, flashy, ect...).
-We exchanged bodies ( skins, stats,...) quite frequently !!!!!!.
In each case, re-installation diden't change anything. Multiplayer bugs diden't happen in solo mode.
Thanks for an answer !
What a pity they aren't anymore DK servers to play at !!!!!!

[[S.F.C]Sarge]

quote:Originally posted by Ben:
Thanks for the quick answer [S.F.C]Sarge/CrAzYCoW -Ca c'est un pseudo camarade !     J'utilise quand même l'anglais pour que d'autres puissent comprendre-...
-No the image problem happens even with "console" set to "0" and concerning the files themselves, they ARE there in the *.pak files ( I've studied a bit their structure) but only -and its normal- for the first part ( "a") of a map; next parts always loaded, with or without patch, in a black screen with the DK logo.
-Concerning the "exit remarks", they ARE present in the french version without the patch... so I don't understand !
I've tryed malipulating the *.cfg files but haven't succeeded doing anything interesting yet.
Ah, other bugs:
In cooperative multiplayer, we've experimented several BIG problems like:
-Large parts of texture being BADLY corrupted ( Going white, flashy, ect...).
-We exchanged bodies ( skins, stats,...) quite frequently !!!!!!.
In each case, re-installation diden't change anything. Multiplayer bugs diden't happen in solo mode.
Thanks for an answer !
What a pity they aren't anymore DK servers to play at !!!!!!

Hi buddy  
For the skins exchange, it's also posible into MP mode(Talking about Deathmatch, CTF, DT). It's only about editing config. We try to don't make it much public as some people could use little model like Shot Cycler 6 shells    

" -Large parts of texture being BADLY corrupted ( Going white, flashy, ect...)." You should download this texture patch:  http://www.planetdaikatana.com/french/downloads/dk12texfix.zip

It was done by Knightmare, fixing some 1.2 texture problem. If it doesn't works, you can edit your config or update your driver to the lastest version (look at the maker of the card web page).

For the image loading problem, I think it's normal it only load up a picture for part "a" as you are entering a new level, part b , c ,d and sometime e are only extension of the map. I might take a look closer to this.

I might start a new DK web page, as many of the DK page available are out-of-date. I gtg go:)

Good night!

[Benjamin]

OK, [S.F.C]Sarge/CrAzYCoW ( And hurray for the "copy /Crtl+c" fonction !!  )
Changing skins is a very interesting fonction...
when it's controled by the player !!!  
I already have the texture fix pack, which works very well in the solo mode; but now that I think of it, it is true that none of us really remembered where to put the "repared" files...  I may have done a mistake !?!
Still, concerning the image loading problem, the game DOESN'T even load the file corresponding to part 'a'; and that's where it is strange.
And well, YYYEEES starting a new page for DK would definitively be a good idear since -you're right- they are ~all dead or out-of date !
I am since a few months slowly -university takes nearly all my time and reading gots the rest- writting, for the "digital women" section of www.womengamers.com, an article of Mikiko Heibiara... A new site would be another good place to put it !!!  
Finally, sorry but I don't think I'm going to get to bed before long ->>> That ^*$ù*$*  )... GGGGRRRRRRR.

[[S.F.C]Sarge]

Hi There    

For the texture fix, just extract the stuff into .../Daikatana/Data. If you use Winzip don't forget to check "Use folder name".    

Now, the image loading problem. Does this happen when you play in Cooperative mode? Or it also don't work in Single Player?

[Benjamin]

The "problem" is I only have the corrected files; no zip anymore -ET OUI je sais que je pourrais le re-télécharger facilement vu sa taille mais j'ai décidé d'être paresseux aujourd'hui !!!  -... So in where must I put them; isn't it "Textures" ?.
As for the "loading problem", it happens whatever you choode as mode...
thanks for helping [S.F.C]Sarge/CrAzYCoW !!! (Pseudo que je me contente de copier /coller; hors de question de le taper à la main !!!  )

[DivinRebel]

The image loading problem is normal in the french version. It don't work in all mods.

"Normalement, en solo, on devrait avoir les images de loading style "E1M1 >> The marsh" mais ça n'a jamais fonctionné, on a toujours le logo de Dk. Je sais pas comment c'est dans les autres versions mais dans la deuxième demo ça marchait..." Voilà...

[Benjamin]

Un autre Français !  C'est décidement vraiment dommage qu'il n'y ait plus de serveur où l'on puisse se  retrouver !!  
OK, so that will be the conclusion of the loading problem... Still, I'm sure all worked correctly
 -even in the french version- in version 1.0; so the mess comes with the patch.  
About about the others ?
Can DivinRebel -Bien le bonjour !  -or someone else confirm for the problem of the 'exit remarks' ( See in the posts above) or the 'changing body /stats' one ?
You know, having, each time you want to load in a cooperative game, to do it five times -random number- before you finally get in the 'right' body,is QUITE annoying !!!
As for the IA problem at the end of episode 1, a friend of mine -un autre français !  -.
OK, ravi de voir qu'il y a encore des gens intéressés par cette 'petite perle' en France ( Ce qui prouve en soi ses qualités !  )...

[DivinRebel]

I can't speak english as well i want so :
"Pour les exits remark c pareil, la version française a supprimé quelques trucs...pour les 2 psyclaws ils n'ont jamais été bien costauds mais bon on fait avec. Avec Smover, on croyait bien être les seuls français..."
 
 [ April 07, 2003, 03:37 PM: Message edited by: DivinRebel ]

[cybdmn]

Ich verstehe kein einziges Wort.  

[DI-MeisterM]

Ich auch nicht, bzw. nicht viel  

[[S.F.C]Sarge]

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[DivinRebel]

"A vos souhaits !"  
A small joke only for french !  

[Benjamin]

ARGGGHHH de l'allemand !!!  Si il y a bien une langue dans laquelle je n'ai jamais été bon c'est bien celle là ( Moyenne anglais /allemand =10 !( 16+4 /2))
Hé bien NON !!! je vous rassure, vous n'êtes de loin pas les seuls Français à avoir apprécié cette perle de DK à sa juste valeur !!  
I've got a few friends -sometimes Quake 1/2 veterants- in the region who were impressed by it...
OK, thanks DivinRebel for solving another problem ! ( Where going to get them all, I promise !  )
Last one is the unfamous 'body change'; anyone on this subject ( See previous posts for more details on it)
Ooops no; an other question... Seeking in DK files on the french version ( Are the others concerned ?), I found LOTS and LOTS of unused dialogs (*.mp3 I think...). You know, WORKING and COMPLETE files in which you can learn some very good details about DK's screenplay, sometimes even a complement to a scene which looked a bit SHORT in the game... WHY DOES THESE FILES HAVEN'T BEEN USED ?  .
By the way, I'm buying an other of John Romero +Tom Hall's 'under-appreciated' titles: "Anachronox"... which I find quite interesting ( Only 3 /4E on www.priceminister); any comment ?